[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Android phone to windows file sharing
Drew King
dking65 at kingconsulting.us
Sat May 27 13:17:13 PDT 2023
I just checked my phone companies website.
They sell the Samsung Galaxy A23 5G WITH NFC for $299.
Even better, there is a brand new 2023 Galaxy A14 5G WITH NFC for $199.
The Samsung Galaxy A14 5G was released on January 12, 2023. It runs on
Android 13, One UI Core 5 and has a thickness of 9.1mm. The phone
features a 6.6-inch display with a resolution of 1080x2400 (FHD+). It
comes with two SoC variants: Exynos 1330 (SM-A146B) and Dimensity 700
(SM-A146P). It supports 4GB, 6GB, and 8GB of RAM memory, and 64GB and
128GB of internal storage. The phone has a triple-lens camera system
with a rear camera resolution of 50MP and a front-facing camera
resolution of ?.
So, you can get very affordable 5G phones with NFC.
https://www.thephonetalks.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-nfc/
On 5/27/2023 3:57 PM, Robert Primak wrote:
> Pixel and iPhone are nowhere near low-end smartphones. The dividing
> point between high-end and low-end smartphones is about $400.00 new
> and $300.00 used or older models. Very old, soon to be obsolete models
> may be as low as $200.0 and Bing AI 0 or less. But they won't last
> long and will never again get system updates.
>
> I use the Motorola g stylus series. And even that is not low-end.
>
> The vast majority of smartphones in the US are not high-end models.
> And nearly all do not have NFC or Apple's version. Almost all low-end
> smartphones are Android phones without NFC. Including the Moto
> g-series up to the Moto g 5G subseries which is expensive again.
>
> Since I'm in the market for a budget smartphone now, I have done some
> research into this. (Don't you just hate when the charging port goes
> bad on an otherwise working phone? Yes, I'll get it fixed, but I'll
> need backup while the repair is done.)
>
> -- Bob Primak
>
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 07:31:34 AM EDT, Rich Moffitt
> <rich at richmoffitt.org> wrote:
>
>
> On the topic of NFC, though it's irrelevant to Nearby Share: there are
> several cheap phones that have NFC now, in fact I would say it's in
> the majority of new smartphones at this point, given that NFC
> components are commoditized and the software stack is mature and well
> standardized by now. Low end smartphone models like the Google Pixel a
> series, Samsung Galaxy A series, and the Apple iPhone SE have had NFC
> for several years. A used iPhone SE can be found for under $250 (
> https://swappa.com/buy/apple-iphone-se-3rd-gen-2022 ) and Android
> phones for even less.
>
> Side note: "dumb phones" are experiencing a bit of a revival. (
> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60763168 ) A possible side effect is
> lowering smartphone prices, at least for a little while.
>
> For a little about how AirDrop and Nearby Share work, the diagram from
> the paper "A Billion Open Interfaces for Eve and Mallory: MitM, DoS,
> and Tracking Attacks on iOS and macOS Through Apple Wireless Direct
> Link" ( https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec19-stute.pdf ) may be
> helpful.
>
> image.png
>
> The technologies in play are Bluetooth and peer-to-peer wifi.
> Bluetooth for discovery, and wifi for session establishment and high
> speed transfer. Peer-to-peer Bluetooth sharing has been around for
> decades and is really slow, so this is effectively a replacement using
> wifi. Apple had some interesting vulnerabilities arise (
> https://www.wired.com/story/zero-click-ios-attack-project-zero/ )
> shortly after release. Similarly, Microsoft had to work out some
> implementation bugs in Nearby Sharing (not to be confused with Android
> Nearby Share) that introduced a rather serious remotely exploitable
> vulnerability ( https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2021-40464 ) a
> couple years ago. Lastly we have Google's Nearby Share, which
> Drew mentioned, and it is the newest protocol and happens to be
> incompatible with the other two. Interoperability is clearly a mess.
> The concept is pretty well accepted now, but the implementation
> standards remind me of this XKCD cartoon:
>
> image.png
>
> -Rich
>
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 11:56 PM Drew King <dking65 at kingconsulting.us>
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> To my knowledge, NFC Is a cell phone thing not a Windows thing
> therefore is not a factor in this technology.
>
> NFC is always DISABLED on my cell. This software does *not* use 5G
> or nfc. You just need to be on the same wifi network. Bluetooth
> might work also, but I'm not certain of that.
>
> Yes, Apple has had this feature for quite some time To go from I O
> S to I O S and perhaps MacOS.
>
> Android phones no matter what kinds you have always had the
> ability to do nearby sharing to other Android phones, this
> software adds the capability to do that between Android and windows.
>
> There is another program in the Google play app store that can
> transfer files from an Android phone to a Windows computer using
> the windows nearby sharing technology without needing to install
> any software on windows. Because you're not installing anything on
> windows it only works in one direction from your Android device to
> Windows. the hyperlink to the app in the Google play app store is
> listed below..
>
>
> On 5/26/2023 11:46 PM, Robert Primak wrote:
>> Be aware, NFC (Android) only exists in a few, mostly 5G Cellular
>> capable, smartphones right now. None of these phones is currently
>> priced under the high-$400.00 range. For me, that's a lot of
>> money to pay just to share files with nearby devices and make
>> contactless payments. Just making these payments signals people
>> that your phone is worth stealing.
>>
>> Apple (iOS) has had their version of Nearby Sharing for a lot
>> longer than the Android phones. But just showing that you have an
>> iPhone capable of contactless payments sends the same signal that
>> the phone is worth stealing.
>>
>> Just my opinions.
>>
>> -- Bob Primak
>>
>> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:10:39 PM EDT, Drew King
>> <dking65 at kingconsulting.us> <mailto:dking65 at kingconsulting.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I will demo this at the June Windows 11 meeting.
>>
>> This software is still in beta and I have it installed on two
>> machines and so far it works flawlessly. It's written by Google.
>>
>> It lets you use the Android nearby share feature that normally
>> only nearby shares with other Android phones with Windows
>> computers also.
>>
>> If you select and long press text or a hyperlink or a file,
>> android pops up a window and there is an icon that symbolizes
>> sharing that is a three-way star looking thing and then nearby
>> share will be one of the options. When probably installed, your
>> Windows computer will show up as one of the devices that you can
>> send the file or hyperlink to.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can send text that you select on your Android app, and you
>> can also send hyperlinks in addition to files.
>>
>> https://android.com/better-together/nearby-share-app/
>>
>>
>> There is also a separate Android software program in the Google
>> Play App Store that lets you do the same thing but only in one
>> direction . Developer is working on two way. The big difference
>> with this software program is you don't need to install or modify
>> windows in any way whatsoever. The application on Android can
>> send files to windows that have nearby share enabled. Nearby
>> share on windows must be enabled for this to work.
>>
>> Nearby Sharing Windows 10 / 11
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.shortdev.nearby_sharing_windows
>>
>>
>> --
>> Drew King
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