[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Meeting Reminder: Fusion Update, presented by Ted Kochanski. 10AM ET Wednesday, July 24, 2024. Lexington Computer and Technology Group

[Adam Broun]

I will also sell you neutrons*


*may also contain protons


On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 15:46 carllazarus--- via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us>
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> How much does he make per neutron?   😉
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> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> *On
> Behalf Of *ggamota--- via LCTG
> *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2024 3:38 PM
> *To:* 'Ted Kochanski' <tedpkphd at gmail.com>; 'Barry Kort' <
> barry.kort at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Lexington Computer Group New Address Distribution' <
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> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Meeting Reminder: Fusion
> Update, presented by Ted Kochanski. 10AM ET Wednesday, July 24, 2024.
> Lexington Computer and Technology Group
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> A story related to fusion appeared in Science Magazine I received today.
> The title is “Making Fusion Pay”. In his ultimate goal Greg Piefer of SHINE
> Technologies is making money along the way to show FUSION makes clean
> energy, he makes money by selling neutrons. A smart move for an
> entrepreneur with vision and making money along the way.
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> George
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> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+ggamota=stma-llc.com at lists.toku.us> *On Behalf
> Of *Ted Kochanski via LCTG
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2024 1:23 PM
> *To:* Barry Kort <barry.kort at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Lexington Computer Group New Address Distribution <
> LCTG at lists.toku.us>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Meeting Reminder: Fusion
> Update, presented by Ted Kochanski. 10AM ET Wednesday, July 24, 2024.
> Lexington Computer and Technology Group
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> All,
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> ITER has always been a big ?   -- because it is a project based on a
> handshake deal between Governments [US & USSR -- in the persons of RR &
> Michale Gorbochov in 1985]  -- these were at the time the two leading
> countries in the field of magnetic fusion science and engineering -- but
> the deal was done just to have a good PR value for the Reykjavik Summit
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> OK the spirit was good the scientists involved were earnest and dedicated
> [one of them was a guy who was a graduate student working with me at UT
> Austin]  -- but the overall execution was - well unbelievably bureaucratic
> and geo-political  .....
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> Now sometimes handshakes work out well -- such as the legendary handshake
> between CEO's of Boeing and Pan Am which led to the 747
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> In the case of ITER all that happened for several years was an argument on
> where to build it -- followed by the sign-on of a number of other countries
> that wanted a piece of the action
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> then the key decision to use superconductive magnets -- but despite the
> then recent discovery of HIgh TC superconductors -- with a massive amount
> of sci/tech optimism -- the commitment to use the then established Low TC
> superconductors -- condemning the project to gargantuan scale
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> then as the number of participating countries ballooned the bureaucratic
> nature of the project exponentially got worse -- leading to the current
> ridiculous timetable and even more ridiculous over-all cost
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> Still -- despite the huge growth of privately funded fusion work by CFS
> and the rest -- there is a case to be made for ITER as a world center for
> the ancillaries that the private sector start-ups will try to avoid but
> actually probably can greatly benefit from-- such as:
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>    1. blanket sci/tech
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>    1. especially how to get the Tritium out of the blanket and ready to
>       be injected into the Tokamak
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>    2. materials for the first wall and high heat load regions of the
>    diverter
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>    1. and the overall problem of getting residual heat [not expected to
>       be very [if at all] useful for electric power generation] out of the tokamak
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>    3. some confinement / stability science involving high energy alphas
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> The testing associated with the above issues will be hard to recover
> expenses for the CFS, Tokamak Energy and other Tokamak or even
> Stellerator-based Fusion Power privately funded start-ups
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> So -- ITER should be done -- just blow-off the associated development of
> DEMO
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> Ted
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> On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 2:16 PM Barry Kort via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us>
> wrote:
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> Sabine Hossenfelder just posted an update on challenges and delays facing
> the ITER Fusion project in France ...
> Costs explode for Nuclear Fusion Flagship project -- Is it still worth the
> money? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nscGizM9NQw>
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> Barry
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> --
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> The Process of Enlightenment Works In Mysterious Plays.
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