[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Dark matter doesn't exist and the universe is 27 billion years old • Earth.com

Thu Mar 21 14:01:52 PDT 2024

Ted is right: the idea that physical “constants” are not truly constant has been around for quite a while.  When I was a grad student in physics, I remember, Professor David Bohm (Princeton; author of a quantum mechanics text) tried to construct a non-constant physical constant (NCPC ?) theory.
What I find interesting about the new NCPC theory  is that, on the surface, it might have genuine application.  It doesn’t (yet) necessarily displace the dark matter theory because – as far as one can tell from information in this thread – there are no observational or experimental data, now, that distinguish NCPC from dark matter theories.  
In both cases, the ‘evidence’ supporting the theories seems to come from reasoning that’s analogous to curve-fitting.  
    – Mike Alexander

On Thursday, March 21, 2024, 4:26 PM, Michael Alexander via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:

However, as Einstein showed, time depends on one’s frame of reference.

    – Mike Alexander

On Thursday, March 21, 2024, 4:20 PM, Robert Primak via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:

 As they say, "Time will tell". (What time will tell us and how, are the unanswered questions.)
-- Bob Primak 

    On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 03:29:56 PM EDT, Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd at gmail.com> wrote:  

 All,

This is not new 

Back in the 70's when I was an MIT undergrad -- we had a Physics Colloquium featuring Paul Dirac --  the legendary Physicist
Most people came just based on the assumption that here's a chance to say you were in the room with one of the founders of QM
However -- Prof. Dirac spent his hour talking about a new idea -- that the physical constants were not in fact constant -- that they changed with time and space in a predictable manner
When he was finished -- most people thought that they had witnessed an old guy a bit off the beaten trail -- and Yet?

Ted  

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 3:25 PM Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd at gmail.com> wrote:

All,
This is not new 
Back in the 70's when I was an MIT undergrad -- we had a Physics Colo
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:05 PM carllazarus--- via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:

I agree it appears that no real evidence has been presented to support these hypotheses.  On the other hand, after decades of trying to find dark matter, it does seem like there must be some cosmic mechanism we don’t yet understand.

-- Carl

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Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Dark matter doesn't exist and the universe is 27 billion years old • Earth.com

While they listed a few possible mechanisms, like the search for Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the evidence looks to my mind to be highly speculative and poorly supported by any kind of evidence. (I have had not very much scientific education compared with most members of this group.) Then again, if I had the level of understanding to read further on this subject, I might be able to see what kinds of evidence both sides of this discussion think they are seeing. 

The paper referenced promises to include some of the evidence seen by the side which favors the CCC-TL hypothesis. Probably that level of reading is beyond my level of education and scientific literacy. 

-- Bob Primak 

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 01:48:24 PM EDT, Steve Isenberg via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote: 

Interesting.

Posits that forces of nature weaken over time and in different places in the universe. (CCC, Covarying Coupling Constants)

Also the Tired Light (TL) concept that light loses energy as it travels across the universe.

I wonder what if any evidence is for these.

-steve

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 1:20 PM Stan Rose via LCTG <lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:

This seems to up end a lot of ideas!

https://www.earth.com/news/dark-matter-does-not-exist-universe-27-billion-years-old-study/ 

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