[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Mystery I'm trying to figure out

Mon Feb 13 12:37:23 PST 2023

I'd start by googling something like "reaction of calcium carbonate with
organic materials" because you mentioned calcium carbonate which might
generate carbon dioxide in a reaction.  You might then see some bubbling.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 3:26 PM Wayne Sharfin <wsharfin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm probably not responding to the latest email because some go to my
> inbox and others to spam... but if there is nothing obviously wrong with
> the measurement, then you may have a chemical reaction which consumes solid
> mass and produces gas which escapes.  If there were some way to measure an
> increase in the pressure generated in a closed container you could test
> this.   This would be the reverse of the kind of thing that happens when
> plants grow --- they appear to generate biomass out of nothing.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:55 AM Steve Isenberg <smisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The fiber is "Optifiber compare to Benefiber(r)" "Prebiotic Fiber
>> Supplement" (yes, prebiotic, not probiotic)
>> Ingredient: Wheat Dextrin.  Contains wheat ingredients. Gluten-free,
>> contains less than 20ppm gluten.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:45 AM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And no probiotics in the fiber? (I would think none.)
>>>
>>> -- Bob Primak
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 08:43:58 AM EST, Steve Isenberg <
>>> smisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing listed as probiotic.
>>> almonds, calcium carbonate, sea salt, sunflower lecithin, locust bean
>>> gum, gellan gum, vit E, zinc gluconate, vit A, vit D2, B2, B12.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:31 AM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve --
>>>
>>> Does your almond milk contain probiotics?
>>>
>>> Probiotics are by definition live cultures. They will consume
>>> polysaccharides like soluble fiber.
>>>
>>> -- Bob Primak
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 07:37:28 AM EST, arnold peterson <
>>> alp4982 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if heat is produced by this reaction, then I could understand a
>>> weight loss.
>>>
>>> There is another possibility. I have a food scale that I weigh my ground
>>> coffee. Sometimes it seems like the scale takes time for the reading to
>>> settle down.
>>>
>>> I find that when I use a larger amount of coffee this is less of a
>>> problem.  le: If using 20-25 g this is less likely to happen than when I
>>> use 10g, which happens almost all the time.
>>>
>>> The scale I use is a weight watchers scale.
>>>
>>> I think a balance scale might be a way for another more reliable method.
>>>
>>> I think this is a physics problem, of the scale. My scale likes to move
>>> in 2 g increments.  -arnie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:00 PM Larry Wittig <9423lew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you try it again in a jar with a screw-on top that was included when
>>> you weighed the jar and milk.  Right after you add the power screw the top
>>> on tight.
>>>
>>> Why did you do this in the first place -- did you read that this might
>>> happen?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 6:42 PM Steve Isenberg <smisenberg at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gentlepeople, especially any chemistry or physics experts:
>>>
>>> When I add 5 grams powdered fiber to almond milk, the added weight
>>> starts dropping immediately from 5 grams.
>>>
>>> Materials are powdered fiber supplement (Optifiber from Costco, wheat
>>> dextrin) and unsweetened almond milk (also from Costco).
>>>
>>> Procedure.  I take a small shot glass container and put it on the scale,
>>> and zero the scale.  Add 5 grams of powdered fiber to the glass container,
>>> and it stays at 5g.  I set the glass container aside.
>>> Then I take a container of about 8 oz of cold almond milk and put it on
>>> the scale, zero the scale, and add the 5g powder into the almond milk.  I
>>> don't stir.
>>> At first the scale reads 5g, then immediately starts to drop in weight,
>>> to 4.5, 4.0, 3.8, etc within the first minute.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what's happening, why is the weight dropping?
>>>
>>> This is not a joke, I am asking a serious question.  I can do this live
>>> over zoom sometime, and in person. Any thoughts?
>>> -steve
>>>
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