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Fri May 26 16:10:14 PDT 2023

 Harry - 
It's worse than that. 
On this game show you can eliminate one or two of the answers. This completely changes the problem. But it is still impossible to give a correct answer, randomly or not. 
You may be correct about 50% being the first correct answer, before eliminating one of the 25% listings. But with two answers both containing the incorrect 25% answer, you do not have a 50% chance of selecting the correct answer. You have a 50% chance of selecting the WRONG answer, but only one chance in four of selecting 50% as the answer at random. In other words, you have a 50% chance of selecting 25% as the correct answer, which is an unresolvable logical paradox. Blocks of color do not change this inexorable fact.  A "bad question" in game show parlance. 
Now, if you eliminate one of the 25% answers, the other one remains, and 33% may now be correct, or from the available choices, a 0% chance. This changes the correct answer completely. Resulting in a "bad question", according to the game's rules. 
For the purpose stated in the urban myth posts, this makes it a truly indeterminate problem. A "bad question" in game show parlance. 
You can also make at least one phone call to a friend to help you out, and I think this show also allows contestants to ask the audience for help. (It's not relevant that you can do these things, but the rules allow these options as well.) Each step can only be done a certain number of times per round, and these steps may also muddy up the problem to an unacceptable degree. 
As I say, I have ample evidence this frame never happened. It was a Photoshop with layers created, one layer changed, and the result merged back together into a single-layer image. Then sent through enough web nodes to obfuscate the shenanigans. All for a prank.
Some people have way too much time on their hands, methinks. 
-- Bob Primak 

    On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 06:39:31 PM EDT, Harry Forsdick <forsdick at gmail.com> wrote:  

 Bob,
Consider the following picture:

I know this problem is different from the other one, but I can't think hard enough to figure out how it isn't a 1-to-1 mapping from the previous problem.
Here is how I did the mapping:   
   - replace 25% with the red blocks
   - replace 50% with the blue block
   - replace 0% with the yellow block
So, in essence I have treated the % values in the four answers as symbols rather than values.  This problem appears to have a correct answer: 50%  

Oh, I get it.  The reason it is unsolvable is because the "meaning" or "information" in the for correct answer is indeed 50%, but the probability of any one answer being the correct answer (50%) is actually 25%.  
I am sure there must be a mapping of this problem to a provable contradiction.
It's interesting that ChatGPT gets the wrong answer:
 - ChatGPT: 
Hello, How can I assist you?

 - Harry: 
If you choose an answer to this question at random what is the chance that you will be correct?

The choices for the possible answers are:A: 25%B: 50%C: 0%D: 25%

 - ChatGPT: 
The answer is D: 25%. Since there are four possible answers, each answer has an equal chance of being chosen at random, and only one of the four choices is correct. Therefore, the probability of choosing the correct answer is 1/4 or 25%.

So much for the I in ChatGPT being an example of AI...
Regards,
-- Harry

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On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 1:50 PM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Where did this image come from? 
I matched the image and found it to match an Australian "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" winner from November, 2005.
The photo in the image is not from the videos of the actual run of Mr. Martin Flood, the actual contestant who actually won the Million (Australian) Dollars on the show. 
I first matched the picture in this email to an urban myth, promoted on several social media sites. (Using Google Image Match right here out of my Yahoo Mail email web page.) 
The photo was altered to produce that question. It was a Photoshop image, never found in the original video or any accounts at the time or later of the winning run. 
See:Paradox or correct answer?
https://www.reddit.com/r/3Blue1Brown/comments/j1gt5g/paradox_or_correct_answer/ 

"Alright! 👊Programmers, engineers, and fans of logic:I really need your help here!
"What is the correct answer? 🤯" https://twitter.com/SimonHoiberg/status/1292427701773623297 

(Spoiler Alert: There is no answer. It is a logical paradox. And therefore a "bad question" in game show parlance.) 

Here are some of the actual accounts and videos:Who Wants to be a Millionaire AUSTRALIA November 7 & 14 2005 (TWO SHOWS! - Martin Flood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wG0QmoK5rU

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Wiki
https://millionaire.fandom.com/wiki/Martin_Flood 
Where are they now? Who Wants to Be a Millionaire's 20th anniversary
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/where-are-they-now-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-s-20th-anniversary-20190418-p51fcd.html 

Exclusive interview with ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire’ winner Martin Flood… the pay-off!
https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/11/29/exclusive-interview-who-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-9/

More Parts of this Interview:https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/08/22/interview-who-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-1/

https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/08/29/exclusive-interview-with-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-2/
https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/09/19/interview-martin-flood-part-3/
https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/09/26/exclusive-interview-who-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-4/

https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/10/10/exclusive-interview-who-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-5/

https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/10/17/exclusive-interview-who-millionaire-winner-martin-flood-part-6-2/ 

For those interested in winning at game shows:Howtowingameshows.com on Facebook!
https://howtowingameshows.com/2013/10/24/howtowingameshows-com-facebook/

Thanks for playing -- Goodbye. 

Never mess with a Google Ninja!
-- Bob Primak

    On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 05:44:37 PM EDT, jjrudy1 at comcast.net <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:  

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