[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Hydrogen Fuel Cell Powered Mobility

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Thu Apr 10 09:24:58 PDT 2025


Thanks for the additional information, Ted.  I agree that at some time in the future we will probably have enough non-fossil fuel energy to spare that hydrogen will make sense.  Whether that will be from fusion, fission, deep geothermal, or something else, is hard to predict.

-- Carl

 

From: Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd at gmail.com> 
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Carl,

 

That isn't the point of the work cited in the article -- the time frame that Kawasaki Heavy Industries has in mind is 2050

By then if Fusion really turns out to be practical in the next decade then we will be well on our way to very available emission free electricity

That in turn will allow hydrogen and other hydrogen based liquid and gaseous fuels to become abundant and cheap

 

 

Ted

 

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On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:48 PM <carllazarus at comcast.net <mailto:carllazarus at comcast.net> > wrote:

This is like many articles touting emissions-free energy from hydrogen, this article fails to mention that making hydrogen currently creates a lot of emissions.  As of now, producing hydrogen without those emissions is too costly.

-- Carl

 

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All, 


 

here's another take on electric mobility from LiveScience

 https://www.livescience.com/technology/robotics/scientists-design-new-kind-of-robot-horse-that-you-can-one-day-ride-up-a-mountain

 


Scientists reveal new hydrogen-powered ‘robot horse’ that could one day take you up a mountain


 <https://www.livescience.com/news> News

By  <https://www.livescience.com/author/jess-thomson> Jess Thomson published yesterday

Japanese engineers have unveiled a concept design of the Corleo, a four-legged robotic horse that could one day carry people across a vast range of terrains.

A new type of robot inspired by an animal has been unveiled — and this time, it's a horse.

Corleo, a hydrogen-powered robot with four legs designed to be ridden by humans, has been announced by Japanese manufacturer Kawasaki Heavy Industries at a showcase event ahead of the Osaka-Kansai Expo 2025, which starts April 13. However, the robot is still in its concept phase of development; a functioning prototype has not been made public.

This robot, unlike previous animal-shaped bots such as  <https://www.livescience.com/49760-robot-dog-boston-dynamics.html> Boston Dynamics' dog Spot, is designed for people to ride it as the machinery uses artificial intelligence (AI) and specially designed legs to navigate complex terrains...

Horse power

Kawasaki proposes that Corleo will have an AI system that enhances its balance and navigation, with the robot responding to the body movements of the rider — just like a real horse. The robot will also have a heads-up display in front of the rider much like a motorcycle does, showing important information.

"Equipped with an instrument panel that displays hydrogen level, route to the summit, center of gravity position, and other information. At night, it supports optimal riding by projecting markers onto the road surface to indicate the path ahead," Kawasaki representatives added.

Corleo will be driven by a 150cc engine powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. Hydrogen fuel cells work by converting chemical energy from hydrogen into electricity. Hydrogen gas is split into protons (H+) and electrons, and the electrons create electricity that can power the motor. This process produces zero emissions, with only water as a byproduct. Hydrogen fuel cells can easily be recharged by refuelling them with hydrogen gas.

 

Ted

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